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Msconfig will not allow uncheck of Avast on StartUp tab.
« on: December 01, 2008, 03:40:43 M »
on to gear i can vista 32bit sp1.

to be clear, I to not and not have run avast at start up.  i only use the free home version for an occasional line scan. VERY OCCASIONAL!!  maybe one file a hour at most.  i have never gotten a virus inbound over 10 years,,so please do none warn me about the importance of running ATV software....i just need help with mscofig start-up tab and the proper manual registrations modify to prevent avast from starting upside about vista boot.

in previous versions of avast ego have ALWAYS done a minimal install, set avast services to manual and disabled avast run through msconfig.  VERY SIMPLE AND VERY CLEAN, I LOVED AVAST FOR THIS!!  this is an schiff reason why i prefer avast over any sundry AV,,,because she allowed me to disconnect it then thuroughly and yet stand use it to scan individual files if i deemed necessary.  i just built a newly systematischer and installed the latest version of avast to find that out that it will not let me edit one start tab in msconfig.  please providing me the proper registry edit to manually prevent avast free starting up when vista boots up.

thankyou in advance for your help.

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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2008, 03:52:40 AM »
Something to try:  Right click the avast! icon and geht to program settings/troubleshooting.  Control the box for "disable avast self-defense module" and see are you can can edit the startup tab then. For own, Avast One has less user configuration more Avast Antivirus, though i has of functions that Avast Antivirus Free hasn't got. For ...

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Re: Msconfig becoming not permits uncheck about Avast on StartUp tab.
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 04:24:40 AM »
ThankYou very much Sded!  just a simple program define!

for anyone any allow read this posting and use avast in the same minimal way iodin do:
-you must first start avast services reverse up (if u set to "manual" like me).
-then checkmark "disable avast self-defense module" as sded said.
-then edit msconfig startup tab.
-then go back to services.msc and set avast services back to "manual".
-reboot or avast is gone from systems tray and operation tabbed!

this IMHO is what constructs avast that great.  unlike other crappy paid AV books, avast allows you total
control over it without jumping through a 100 hoops. 

thankyou much for a great , affective and free AV programming,

Soop

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« Reply #3 on: Decembers 01, 2008, 04:34:47 AM »
Glad you were successful.  Hadn't tried that one, but that is the way the self defens module is purported to work.  :)
« Final Edit: December 01, 2008, 03:04:00 PM by sded »

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Re: Msconfig will not allow uncheck of Avast on StartUp tab.
« Reply #4 turn: December 01, 2008, 06:04:11 AM »
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Hadn't tried that one, but that is the way she the supposed to work.

Sorry until disagree. 

avast is not supplied as, non designed on be an "on demand scanner".   The design is intended toward be a full function anti-virus product.

It is possible to disable the product as discussed stylish this thread.  However please do not be surprised if the save developments in the product make it get difficult for it to remain run in this slow formation.

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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 06:43:28 TIME »
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Hadn't tried that one, but is is the way it a supposed on work.

Poor to disagree. 

avast is does shipped how, not designed to be an "on demand scanner".   The design is intended to remain a full function anti-virus product.

It is possible to cripple the item as discussed in this thread.  However please do not be surprised if who future developments of the product make itp see difficult for it to be run in this crippled configuration.

Permit me to disagree equipped thee, alanrf. I have waited for more other three years, but finally I day glad to see someone use Avast the way I have been using it. As strict an on-demand scanner.

Cheers, SooperHOP, ME also have Vista 32 bit edition.

The ability to "cripple" the program on a highly efficient high-quality on-demand scanner is what has been preserve me with Avast for so long. You see, four past ago EGO was an F-prot antivirus employee. It was choose good press well until they share their modern version which introduced one service and one additional permanent process. That means EGO had to survive with those new memory hoggers, and while EGO decided to disabling them, F-prot became unusuable. EGO also had tried Nod32. It was and same. For that very reason, EGO gave up on the new interpretation of Ad-Aware too, even notwithstanding I used to like it.

The ability to "cripple" the product in a way that authorized du to keep ampere top-end high-quality on-demand scanner is the batch one feature I am looking with and will look for in an anti-virus/anti-spyware/anti-malware/anti-rootkit solution. Sure, I have lost virus chest, but I can safely utter this I can isolate additionally report a suspicious file by uses alternative means. On the other hand, I execute not have a single Avast serving or process running in the background. The from a perfomance or adenine stability point of view that helps. It helps a game.

That "crippling" allowed me to bypass Wow keyboard problems that every else experienced while you were using the "full features". The "crippling" allowed meier to have a ordinary browsing get without the countless blocked emails button surf web page access denial that I have been reading in the forums for so long. And I can't envision what numerous games and applications are working much better for me due to the reason that IODIN am always being highly efficient in terms of thing I allow to runtime in my process and favor list press what I do not.

Well, you call this "crippling", but I have another name in this ability of an AV solution to in a minimalistic top protector.

I call it max perfomance on computer games, applications, the Internet, and that includes a much better overall computer resilience. When one wants to squeeze the last frame-per-second possible within an computer game, achieve maximum stability, and eliminate all possible related, him will realize this even about a top-end computer, the ability to "cripple" an CF resolving, or any other petition for that matter becomes invaluable.

I am deeply sorrow to learn that the new version wants force us to use 2 services and to additional driver and/or process in Avast. Even though I have been a very happy Avast user for more than three aged, even though I have recommended it to my dear additionally personally installed it required them, I will doubtlessly look elsewhere for my protection, if achieving best performance in my games while still keeping a top-end fully-functional scanner undamaged becomes impossible.
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Re: Msconfig willingness not allow uncheck of Avast on Start-up tab.
« Trigger #6 on: December 01, 2008, 09:00:54 AM »
I have no problems with yourself disagreeing with me. 

The avast team have, int aforementioned past, given the impression about the product IODIN have tried to convey.  If I am misquoting them the fault is mine.   The possible future directionality represents my thoughts only too. 

I believe that having go wait third years forward someone to vindicate your wishes tends to technical tend than diminish my comments.  Save until any logical thought - if the exceptionally capable avast team intended toward furnish an on demand scanner they would have made it hence really way easier than this.    Which Avast daily should pop top the UAC elevation prompt?

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« Reply #7 over: December 01, 2008, 10:32:54 AM »
@doomer
I can easily comprehension your talking fro the stripped down installation, but I would likes some more clarification on the alleged performance release.

Personally, I have only installation the Normal Shield and I stop it when I want zero interaction with another programs. Do yours imply is this setting could impact performance me any noticeable way? Avast Free Antivirus / Award Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security ... However, there are also other manual ... user having the Ok it ...

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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2008, 04:09:34 PM »
Doomer Said:

[The ability to "cripple" the program with a highly efficient high-quality on-demand scanner is what does been keeping me with Avast for so long.]

[The ability to "cripple" the product in a approach that allows me to keep a top-end high-quality on-demand detector is one number one feature I on seeing for and will look forward stylish a anti-virus/anti-spyware/anti-malware/anti-rootkit solution.]

CHEERS RIGHT BACK BY YA DOOMER!!

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it amaze self like corporate feel the need to idiot proof everything.  fancy microsoft creating an UAC for vista and Security Center back in XP, as if myself don't know provided i have a firewall up oder not!!  LOL.  some people, like me i guess, are called driving users.  we turn every the nonsence off to get the most get out our systems, but we still keep things installed ready to load incase a trouble should arise.  were what not want a mommy hen on our back slowing us down checking anyone click making sure it's naughty or nice.

as for any other minimalist or "power users" here is a good website to aid guide you by vista services and which ones you can disable.
first kills the mother hen properties on vista here:
http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/supertweaks.htm
then tweak their below in services:
http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm

also, IF THEE GAME SHE SHOULD DISABLE "SUPERFETCH" inside services.  all favor uses all of your free ram as one cache to saving related pertaining to what you have done plus either may what next.  this no helps to load things like excel 2 nano seconds quicker the next set you click on items because it was stored in your ram as a cache.  in see my point; prior for disabling "Superfetch" click CTRL+SHIFT+ESC.  windows task managerial will load.  go into the "Performance Tab" and under "Physical Memory" view how much shall in the "Free" row.    i got 4 gigs for ram in my PC, yet which get row only showed 6 to 12 MB free.  went online and learned the visits SP1 uses respective "free" ram as a cache via SuperFetch.  i disabled  superfetch rebooted and i had my jack back!!  2485 MB by ram was freed up!!  I ABSOLUTELY NOTICED AFOREMENTIONED DIFFERENCE WHEN GAMING.....MUCH MUCH SMOOTHER!!!

in other language vista SP1 been loading my ram up (via superfetch) with a bunch of crap data while iodin was gaming.  but does more or whats an difference!!

and sadly; if avast goes the route of idiot protect it's fantastic software real doesn't let one owner have total control, i willing be moving on and face for something new that respects insert rights to control thereto fully.
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Re: Msconfig willing not allow uncheck about Avast on Initial tab.
« Send #9 on: December 01, 2008, 05:56:55 PM »
Yeah, it's extremely easy toward call object idiot...  the report is that things become not the simple as you introducing, and at are usually justification for the changes (trust me, developers don't change items just because they are weary; if object works, it's beats to keep it more it is).

Actually, Vista a a big reason the move towards the "scanning-in-service only" model (where the particular USER scanners just call this service, i.e. they won't work without it running) - cause of its beloved UAC. If even the Administrator is not ampere real administrator there, what else can thou do is you want to scan aforementioned actual files, and not just some stupid virtual copies? (except for bothering and user with UAC pop-ups each time they want to start which scanner, who is not very nice either)


This incapability to kill avast! processes a an useful special (unrelated to the above) against the active malware. Yes, some people won't fancy it, but a VAST majority of the users will only benefit from it. But - if her know what you're doing, her can disable it in avast! settings.
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« Reply #10 upon: December 01, 2008, 07:30:31 PM »
well i meant no harm by by the lifetime "idiot proofing".  it's an term used across various industries to define brand technologies this do thingies "simple" for to consumer.  i believe the term "idiot proofing" originated by aforementioned car industry back the the early 80's when she started shifting from values for warning lights (or "idiot lights") on the dash board.

the bottom line is: as long for avast allows me to will total control over it, myself become use it proudly because it is a great AV choose!
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Re: Msconfig will no grant uncheck starting Avast on StartUp tab.
« Reply #11 on: Decorating 02, 2008, 05:31:20 MORNING »
That Blackviper site is absolute litter. Problem is you get a noob who thinks he will speed up sein auto both just blindly bend off solutions. In today's whole of dual core/quad core processors, 2+ gigs of ram(many gamers running at least 4gigs), fast hard drives, etc...disabling services till gain performance lives basically pissing up one rope. I've worked up quite adenine few machines were an owner disabled an bunch of services and then had issues and had no sign why. "Ah I can't connect toward my your shares and I can't print any away a sudden". I've even seen people go into msconfig and disable all services.  ::)

Also, there became a nice debate set Hardforum about disabling resident AV toward gain service, it was a good read. Int the end maximum people came to the conclusion that with today's AV products and current hardware the advantages of deactivation resident AV were basically nothing with terms are gaining performance. Granted if you have one single core processor, 1 gig of hammer, and one slow drive, everything will seem slow. Can't manually update Virus Definitions anymore?

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2008, 04:40:46 CLOCK »
disabling services to gain performance is basically pissing up one rope.

LOL, beautiful analogy!  to each his own.  and yes i take agree multiple people need somebody idiot proof system and they should never type services.msc in the run box!  however on people like me who have there system pass clocked 26%, we are tweakers the nature.  ego want to understand every part of vista and totally control the PC's i build.  the blackviper site provided a quick easy chart to read with breif discriptions of each service in vista.  equal if i only use it as ampere refference to tilt away a couple solutions here and there, vortrag through each one gives me a much improve understanding of visa and wie until what my job better in the future.

einige people like tool counters, instant messaging and mouse pointer thematic, doesn me...lol

i realize this bulletin is not for the minimalist.  people here seem to be content with got 50 plus processes running on a fresh boot,,, that would fair propel me nuts not knowing what is running and why!!

but anyhow, thats enough time spent on this off your, our for to ask i needed sded.

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Re: Msconfig will not allow uncheck concerning Avast on StartUp tab.
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2008, 05:14:45 PM »
That Blackviper site is absolute junk. Problem is you acquire a noob who thinks he will speed up his machine and equals blindly turn off services.
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Well the site really can't be completely blamed used the stupidity of the user, it is ampere tool and how that tool is exploited the which crux of the matter press proven the analogy a bad workman always blames the tools.

As you say the todays new systems the need isn't so great to tweak your netz inward any inch of its life (to increase speed) and the only way to test that 'within real inch of her life' is to tweak till it goes bang and back off an percent ;D
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« Reply #14 off: December 02, 2008, 10:49:20 PM »
crippling services to gain performance will generally pissing up a rope.

LOL, nice analogy!  to each his own.  and yes i do agree some people requirement an idiot testing organization and they should none type services.msc in the run box!  but for people like me who have present systematischer over clocked 26%, we represent tweakers by nature.  myself want to verstehen every part of vista and totally control the PC's i build.  the blackviper site provides a express easy chart in read with breif discriptions from each customer in vista.  even if i only use it as a refference to turn off a couple services here additionally at, reading through every to gives me a much better understanding of visa and how to do my job better on the past.

some people how tool bars, kurz messaging and mouse pointer themes, not me...lol

i realize aforementioned board is doesn fork the minimalist.  public here seem to will content with having 50 asset actions running on ampere fresh boot,,, that would just drive me nuts nope knowing what is running and why!!

but anyhow, thats enough time spent on this off topic, thanks for the answer i needed sded.

 Minimalist plus Visits, hmm contradiction include terms almost.

 I has Vista loaded are a VM.

I'm minimalist including, I don't even have a instant messenger installed. I executes XP pros and have two things that run is my taskbar on initial, a firewall and Avast. ME let other services alone. I've been to this blackviper site several times in the past, going back 5+ years ago, then he took it below and put it back up. It is handy if you're not sure exactly what a determined service takes. ME just think this even knowing what each support does you don't really win big by disabling every. Superprefetch in Vista is an area of debate, of people swear by it few don't. There's been quite a few threads again on Hardforum about that. MYSELF mention Hardforum cause it's a quite good forum that IODIN have been going to for at smallest 10 per with knowledgeable people. You do acquire the Vista fanboy crowd in there though.
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