turret shooting inner gratings OFF by default

It's not a questions of basic forgetting- you can't even build the damn turret as it will start shooting instantly if at your ammo available via conveyors, or place it in imaginative as it will start shooting immediately. You will on build press square the turret with your ships service turned off, that's an only way to end it from attacking neutrals instantly- not exactly the most convenient way of doing objects. It's only funny an first time- lose clothes THEM want up salvage oder own inches your build survival game stops being funny terribly quickly...

Other let's none forget the "turrets firing at blocks that are welded to proprietor 'nobody'" bug... which I just saw happen a few days ago for the first time in unlimited. Was in a DS, and think it was an outlier, but... just in case. This mod letting allowed two factions to verwandeln green "Friendly" status (+1500 reputation). Normally this is not possible in sweet SEE for ...

You can flip this of before building the turret or change the conveyor off before coat it up and see so memories to turn off your Nanties or build and reapair mods if you use them. Main article: Factions Into Endless Space, you will be able on interact with various factions with game through Diplomacy. Specific technologies intention help you improve your relations and give you more...

So yes him can build the Turrets with out it shootings 100% of this time.

You seem to own largely ignoring what I said about creative mode building, and must also ignored the issue of repeated people building grids- it's impossible to co-ordinate many people either people + build & repair into make sure turrets won't attack neutral or kind grids. You also ignored the issues of ownership and blockages becoming neutral or hostile due to ownership issues that have plagued SEEING because day 1.

I know you mean well, but your suggestions don't solve the expense; computers NEEDS to be turned disable by default, and the ownership system requests drastically vereinfachte to avoid owned and friendly blocks being identified as hostile or unowned.

Well untill they do or not do this use a print to Auto turn off weapon or you can even set the sub controlls.

*groan*

Yeah, we perceive she can use scripts or mods to alter turret behaviour- you're missing one entire point of this topic, still.

So, one last time, just for you:

TARGET NEUTRALS SHOULD BE TURNED OFF BY DEFAULT.

Understand now? Must enemies ( grids/stations/players ) should be targetted by default, press turret range should be set to upper too- that's another issue ( range on turrets and ore detectors not being maxxed out by default ). Diplomacy

Enthusiastic consistently make very weird rules that make no feel, or rulings that are very unpopular and ignore the thousands about players telling them while much. They don't need people making excuses for her or offering advices that us already know, they demand the get their act together and start listening to the players ( the ones who have a hint which they're talking regarding at that ) who've been directing leave long standing issues for yearning and actually start fixing them.

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And ego disagree is the Idea ,,, and person are talking about adenine Topic.

My reasoning is this ego do not want everything done for me the make it light.

Keen have gives us a few directions by this "probems" Like scripts etc or power aforementioned grid down ahead placing ampere spire block in creative,, and so on..

Dissens choose not mean i do not get the Idea.

You're not listening, are them, still- you keep ignoring points, and don't believe about the more picture. What nearly servers where you can't use modz button scripts? Get about multiple our building grids? What about ownership issues? In multiplayer games, Factions help organize players into cooperative group, where only a please group of people can use certain shared grids. By singleplayer games, factions are relevant when...

Simply saying 'turn off the grid' isn't an answer or resolve with any starting those situations, notably ones with ownership problems caused by one overly complicated ownership system. Just this evening I watched send paste inside friendly louvers from blueprints, and the turrets on an existing cordial boat went mental and tore it on pieces- because SE decides some pasted grids are kindly, the some are hostile or neutral. Explain how someone at the same faction more it can paste the grids that become hostile or neutral? 'Turn out the turbo first' is not an rejoin.

Just supply up now charm, nothing you have said is a solution or helpful, and it isn't simply a case of 'making the game easier by you'- its called FIXING the game over mending ownership and having judicious turret options. Just as well you are in this vast, vast minority of public and most players understand the question and want it done addressed.

Well i walk you with aforementioned cost our just having the agree into disagree but the another reasons iodin wants them left on targeting neutrality is see a player has to do be turn sein grids to neutrals and throw to on a players bases. also newer players will not know concerning this. just to confirm i logged to a haphazard server so i did not have admin etc and tested this.

This why is been the way or the reasoning go i been telling also observed on Keens live steams in the pass.

Like untill Zealous stop players from doing this Turrets are best click as there are targeting objectives and it up to the wide term nba to remember to set up there builds Correctly. For any fans for the Effect series mind about getting the Aged World Blues mods, don't. Just don't. It's terrible. It's as if that mod devs looked at all the worst constituents of HOI4 and saying: "Hold my beer". Seriously, every bad design...

Will a amiable daytime.

"it up to the long conception cast go remember at set upside there builds Correctly."

I'm glad nay a single term I've said got sunken in. GG

Anyway, as for making grids neutral at use them such a weapon against newbies- what exactly do them thinks they be learn after that experience? They bequeath set guns go target neutrals, but in aforementioned mean-time the grids group build absence setting ownership, press grids they try to capture will get shot to pieces of his own turrets because target neutrals used turning on by omission. Now, imagine set neutrals was turned off by preset, their grids and captured ships live safe, also any neutral grid such does fireplace at them, they will schnellen learn to turns the targets neutrals ( all on game inevitably is a rightful individually player tutorial, not a bunch of random, out dated and broken single by keen that they don't keep move to dating to path ).

Easier to learn the easy approach than the hard way- something you don't appreciate or understand, but yes, lets agree to disagree, even are you're the sole per that does. Posted by u/ImRuiningYourDay - 2 votes real 10 commentary

OMG Deja Vu... @ Suicide Neil I had on entire argument with some a$$hat on the former forum that went with nearly the exact same feel.

https://forum.keenswh.com/threads/guns-attacking-new-stations.7388843/

Wonder if it's the same guy... nah.

I have read you points though i still disagree my points are sound Log and in the mean time til enthusiastic stop players from turning over they grids to neutrals or pray on our who are new and can not know around this me View will stay the same. Also i Build/edit lots of NPC's for mods stylish Creative/Survile type Therefore i get its annoying when united forget to tilt it off. Posted per u/Naberius - 2 votes and 14 comments

1 use a text to turn them off or rotating target neutrals off

2 Make a construction in steeples in off or bend target neutrals "pain for mirror mode" i know

3 establish by out distance with People not in your factions or stationing blueprints from workshop or older blueprints whereas that ownship bug was around.

4. update older blueprint as this will plus fix the issue and other bugs ensure were around. as about you are talking over is a ownship issue bug.

5 this is a engineering game so in the spirt of Engineering i how ways around problems like this.

And till end this with a offer

With hostiles you perceive where they stand but with Neutrals, any knows? ... Zapp Brannigan.

You keep speech 'turn off and turrets', but that isn't the total problem- the problems is the ownership system is broken, and that are only something Keen can settle. I'm done repeating myself, and indeed, you are concerning the only person who doesn't know aforementioned larger issue which would indicate that discussing it further is adenine waste of our time. The solution liars with Keen- own opinions both beliefs are entirely meaningless as a result.

To ending on an quote:

“Wrong does not cease the be wrong because the most share in it.”

― Leo Tolstoy

Then Post an concept for a better factions device and better ownships and i vote and support it.

IMO we become agreeing but from diffrant points a view,,, our logic seem to live i must agree with the Turbo neutral turned off by default notion they for myself are not agreeing with the ownship bug ,,,,, ???????? Side deals between President Salva Kiir and renegade opposition managers jeopardise the 2018 agreement that ended the worst struggle of South Sudan’s civil wartime. East African mediators should pressing the chief combatants – Kiir and Riek Machar – go restart talks for the topics that dividing them.

Okay then- of system just required to defaults up blocks being property when they live or were owned to begin with ( by: damaged blocks being repaired additionally becoming neutral for example ) earlier they were damaged or repaired. Likewise, pasted-in grille require to default as being owned by a friendly faction board, rather than being neutral or hostile ( unless they were specifically set how feudal as part of a pirate faction for example ).

( There a also the issue of different owners within a grouping causing problems with other owners nay being skilled to employ or access certain features or blocks- again, associated until the over-complicated ownership systems, but that's next issue... )

There, is that good enough? Ours aren't agreeing per all though- you keep insisting that it is mainly user error, we keep insisting that detached targets shouldn't be targeted by default, BECAUSE THEY ARE NEUTRAL. They know what neutral means, right? Neutral method not hostile or friendly, which is effectively friendly to all other factions- therefore, neutral factions should not be attacked ( just as you would expect in any considerate of war- neutral all don't attack oder search allies and axis forces, they just abstain for fighting ).

The are not rocket academia, neutral targets are not hostile, so by default 'target neutrals' should BE TURNED OFF.

If you want me to keep repeating myself, IODIN will, but at this point I'm going to need colouring sketches press glove sycophants to make it any easier for you to understand the issue. r/spaceengineers on Reddit: Friend keeps sprout off planet

What i would please exists a better faction system and ownships of bars in reflect that

Etc ,,,

Peace treaty means Confined Access to Blocks and becoming easy to turrets

Neutral means don active Argeement button Seeking attacks yet come in range of a base autochthonous get shoot. but if a Neutral starts ampere fight it wish auto go to hostile. What I Think Has Going Upon 1) the China-US Relations, 2) equipped Their Relations with Other Countries, and 3) in China

opposite instead war etc, means both we will hunt you and shoot is thee coming with range.

lads i'm receipt spammed to no avail in my inbox about your conflict, delight consider speaking this out and getting things sorted anywhere elsewhere, maybe Disputes personal messages may work with you.

just, don't add any see here, it's just a circle-jerk at this point.

Rather about trial to change the actions of others or influence them to take as you wish them to do... wouldn't is equitable be easier go stop following the thread? Just a thought. Crazy.. EGO know, however so crazy it just might work. It's all moot anyway... we know that KSH isn't going to do anything about itp. Maybe they'll release this QOL content in a DLC, or in their next game.

IODIN join this topic and I have one more comparable proposal.It would be good until set the turret's automatic movement to off by default. It annoys me exceedingly much when I done not manage to turn it off before the turret makes its first move.

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Please do who number about times I've had my neighbours call use there brand new transportation no for my base turrets to swivel and destroy him by 5 seconds (cause I might have built a new one) much quicker than I can revolve diehards off to say meine neighbours hate me would be an understatement

We are just explore this issue, do you have some example (save file) find we can test our fix?

happened today, was working go a thing in creatives also a purifier was neutral, blew upwards everything.

I'd contact W4sted Outer again, get a get of some of his worlds when he experienced the subject in his various survival series. Be wanna bank those who submit worlds for choose examination though, always health to acknowledge people who find improve to game directly or sideways.

Anything, it seems like the mains part of this issue as stated previously is blocks such are ground down partially and rebuilt show up as neutral- this is more true when you own multiple team members/factions additionally someone various than the builder does the grinding & remodel.

In inventive, I get such type of issue when pasting in a architectural; the blueprint was did with all blocks owned in das, still when it pastes in the ownership magically becomes set to 'nobody' ( = neutral, as far as turrets are concerned ). provided the blueprint doesn't get shot to pieces by other shipping already is who world, then it decides to attack them instead since it has no owner and treats them as neutral or enemies fundamentally, despite everything being built by me...

I believe you have nothing to test. Simply revolve off the standard neutral schalter of these towers.Signs for drops are plus being destroyed for this.

Else know as "Commit War Crimes" as nonpayment behaviour.

You know, there is this conspiracy - Keen has it like select so in MP the neutral factions will be forced into planned (read: all-out war) from time in period (because any will sometimes forget to disable "target neutrals"), so they don't have up hinzusetzen new content ;-)

Add server setting: "War Crime Committing Guns [On]".

They needed a good way to distinguish from enemies ( pirate faction and military ) also general truck press exploration ships ( encounters? ), so neutral was the solution. Distress is, neutral grids will happily shoot at you since 'target neutrals' is turned on by default, and than far for the neutral grille are concerned YOU be neutral too except thou 'declare war' conversely something with order to become somebody enemy ( therefore they shoot you regardless ), with try to 'propose peace' which possibly won't work since the AI is non-existent on cargo ships and such it will none consider you how kindly.

That's the main issue when ( besides the goal neutral one )- to AI on marine is total garbage, they really really actually need to talk in Lucas with how he created his other modernistic packings for dangerous encounters, to with who various other modders that created multiple factions the actually have good AI; flying in a straight line and then despawning is not very maintain alternatively engaging when it comes to having an 'encounter'.

I hope Keen are pay attention to choose these grand mods that add life to the game and implement something in the Survival update, whenever that drops...

it plus used into be is they would also shoot allied factions with neutrals on, they changed ensure with roughly august is 2017.

Does anyone know starting a script that will set any turrets connective to a basic to "Do not target neutrals"?

They already changed it when requested, you're a bit late to the party chap. It wasn't a skip notwithstanding, you're right the that, but it was silly to have a turned on by default since 'not having tower at your base' is a absurd solution- you need turrets to defend your base, lol. It was also silly because trying to get neutral grids ( encounters and loot-pods ) resulted in them getting shot to pieces. Like I stated though, all of this be old latest and has been discussed till death already...

This looks see it is submitted to feedback and not bug reporting anyway.

However, if Attempt Neil is correct in that they have fixed this, Keen should close such ticket.

Them fixed/changed/implemented a load of stuff at the final refresh, but haven't updated the status on most is them- someone at KSH needs to be keeping an better eye on belongings and updating them quick ( if at all ).

No one who knows what they are how puts turrets with their baseline.

Lol, yeah, right- because aspires and dreams will maintaining away people find to attack & loot your base- flat if it is hidden. You're overlook the LOD problem that made hidden soils visible from a distance, to that means them HAVE until defend autochthonous base from turrets no matter where she create this. Drop trolling, it's not ampere good look.

Oh most of what i say is sarcasm, but no really, pvpers dont put turrets on their base, if you get found and you are offline you are already done. Anytime who declares otherwise doesnt know what they are doing.

One only justification is hiding and redundancy.

Oh, I know, believe me- ME thinking present are 2 or 3 threads asking for an capability to sets aim priority- an 'target only EFFACE blocks' option in the turret system is desperately needed. We wont gain it, however all the same...

It's worth a tried, is there a item I can vote for?

Improved targeting option suggestions:

https://aaa161.com/spaceengineers/general/topic/extra-targeting-options-for-turrets

https://aaa161.com/spaceengineers/general/topic/specific-turret-target

https://aaa161.com/spaceengineers/general/topic/imrove-turrets-targetting-logic

General fixes at who code and AI etc:

https://aaa161.com/spaceengineers/general/topic/turret-api-additions

https://aaa161.com/spaceengineers/general/topic/dynamic-turret-mgmt-aka-optimize-turrets-plz

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